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#1 Armand

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 10:36 PM

Aparently operated RN aircraft carrier HMS Formidable Grumman (F4F) Martlets with US insignia!
Does anybody know the history behind? Because as such does the debate around the different overseas namings of US aircraft, contrary to the US typical alpha-numeric definition, totally blur :-o

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 11:38 PM

Formidable was part of the Africa landings (Operation Torch) FAA a/c had American markings, so that the Americans wouldn't shoot them down.


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 02:12 AM

Formidable was part of the Africa landings (Operation Torch) FAA a/c had American markings, so that the Americans wouldn't shoot them down.

:-o
Yank pilots weren't trusted much!
In the Pacific did FAA aircraft get the red center of the brit-insignia removed to counter confusion with the big red circle -insignia on japanese aircraft. Additionally did many get the white rectangular bars, US-style, on the side of the roundel to underline beeing non-jap aircraft!

TNX!

Edited by Armand, 18 September 2017 - 05:43 AM.


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 04:32 AM

On the side...during the european ground campaign the British vehicles also wore american signs( white star) probably for the same reason...

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 01:00 PM

Yes Armand, Pacific FAA a/c had the red removed as did the USAAF markings.



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:30 PM

Formidable was part of the Africa landings (Operation Torch) FAA a/c had American markings, so that the Americans wouldn't shoot them down.


Nice detail to ad to Curious Details #39!

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 07:53 PM

Slight correction, while it may have helped prevent US vs FAA aircraft friendly fire; the real reason that the Torch landings British planes used American Roundels and markings was to dissuade the Vichy French Forces from attacking them. French Forces we’re not happy about the attack at https://en.m.wikiped..._Mers-el-Kébir.The French who were on the fence about allegiances had no particular axe to grind with America, thus it was assumed, correctly it turns out, that they would be less hostile and less likely to shoot down American planes or fight the Americans on land as well. https://en.m.wikiped...Operation_Torch
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Posted 17 January 2018 - 01:33 PM

Nice catch Jerry. I had just read that in ' Duels in the Sky ' by Eric M. Brown but

couldn't remember on what page to get the correct quote. :rolleyes:


Edited by CORSNING, 17 January 2018 - 01:33 PM.





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