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#1 Armand

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 05:05 PM

The Italian solution for recapturing the Schneider Troophy from Supermarine in 1931 was quite drastic: Double-up on the Fiat AS.5 engine - Longitudinally to end up with a V-24.
It got quite an impressive appearance and for a motorhead like Me it's almost sculpturic!

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The continuing story is pure aviation history: Italy and France failed to participate and the Supermarine had their third subsequent win in what became the last Schneider race. However the Macchi M.C.72 did break all Supermarine record speeds in later testflights over Lago DI Gardia.

Edited by Armand, 13 November 2016 - 07:44 PM.

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 06:33 PM

Germany afaik never participated in the races.

 

Good book on the races

 

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There was problems with the intake manifold (backfires) which caused the crash of 2 Macchis and the death of 2 pilots.

 

The intake manifold was 7 ft long and at speed (400+mph) the mixture leaned out causing backfires.

 

It took the Germans took 5 years with a special land design to beat the Italian record which still stands for prop seaplanes. 440.68mph

 

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 01:42 AM

It took the Germans took 15 years with a special land design to beat the Italian record which still stands for prop seaplanes. 440.68mph

 

You mean 5 years - it was 1939 when the He 100 and then the Me 209 V1 took the record away.

 

Howard Hughes set the world land plane record in 1935 - 352mph, nearly 90mph slower than the MC72.


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Posted 12 November 2016 - 01:43 AM

The continuing story is pure aviation history: Italy and Germany failed to participate and the Supermarine had their third subsequent win in what became the last Schneider race. However the Macchi M.C.72 did break all Supermarine record speeds in later testflights over Lago DI Gardia.

 

The main participants in the Schneider Trophy were Britain, France, Italy and the US.



#5 Armand

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 10:08 AM

Thankyou for filling in the details of the participants, My source of inspiration are seemingly lousy.
Anyhow: The focus was ment to be at the (sculpturic) hardware.

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 12:20 PM

Interestingly, the average speed for Boothman's S6B in the 1931 event was 340mph over 350km (217 miles). Not far short of Hughes's 352mph record speed attempt.



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 02:12 PM

You mean 5 years - it was 1939 when the He 100 and then the Me 209 V1 took the record away.

 

Howard Hughes set the world land plane record in 1935 - 352mph, nearly 90mph slower than the MC72.

LOL. a brain fart, be sure. :D



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 04:43 PM

Interestingly, the average speed for Boothman's S6B in the 1931 event was 340mph over 350km (217 miles). Not far short of Hughes's 352mph record speed attempt.

And Hughes record was just multiple runs through a short (one mile?) distance!
Gee, this detail is worth having in mind to counter over-bragging Americans ;-)

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:15 PM

What? :) 



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 06:53 PM

What? :) 

. . . . .of wich I dont know any at the time of writing!
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