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#1 Ricky

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Posted 18 October 2016 - 06:30 PM

I have a small puzzle for you to solve -

 

I inherited the attached picture from my Grandad. He did not take the photo, I believe he found it in a Charity Shop a few years ago and bought it - it is labelled 'DREM 1939' because that is what the picture reminded him of (he was stationed there at that time)

 

Now obviously it is not 1939 (they appear to be Mk.V)

 

So my question is - do you know which squadron it is, and can you give a rough time and even location?

 

 

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#2 Kutscha

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Posted 18 October 2016 - 07:19 PM

Looks like the squadron code is RN. 72 Sqd used RN from Oct 39 to Apr 39 and from Sept 39 to Dec 46.

 

October 1939-January 1940: Drem

 

Drem is a small village in East Lothian, Scotland. It is approximately 20 miles east of Edinburgh.

 

Did 72 ever get any of the early cannon armed Spitfires?

 

The roundel is a Type A1 which was replaced by the C1 in July 1942.



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Posted 18 October 2016 - 08:40 PM

Great information Kutscha. All I keep coming up with is RN-N was a Spitfire

Mk.IIa of 72 Squadron. Although hints of it also being a Mk.VB of 72 Squadron

appears in the book 'Spitfire Voices'. Times like this I REALLY miss Edgar. :(



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Posted 18 October 2016 - 10:12 PM

In the lack of Edgar, try Googeling: 'Spitfire RN-N' and chose picture-results. You might be surprised!

With the words of Heräkulman: Knock Yourself off: http://p.v.free.fr/l...e/raf_codes.htm !
This list leads instant towards 72'nd, whereafter only is to surf for Sq no. 72, to get more specific information.
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Posted 18 October 2016 - 10:51 PM

Those are cannon armed, hence either Mk IIb or Mk Vb. 72 Squadron had both, and changed in July 1942 (according to Wikipedia). P7895 RN-N was a Mk IIa, so probably not this one. 

This site claims the photo is a Mk Vb at Biggin Hill in 1941.  http://modelwork.pl/...6407&view=print


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#6 Kutscha

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Posted 18 October 2016 - 11:19 PM

Edgar is missed, be sure.

 

Does the spinner shape tell us if a Mk II or V?

 

I'm going ask on TOCH.



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 12:08 AM

The spinner shape and the cannons tell me it's a Vb. Every IIb had the more rounded early Rotol spinner, while many Vbs had the later, more pointed Rotol.



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 10:20 AM

From the query at TOCH,

 

An uncropped shot of No.72 Sqn Spitfire RN-N, appears in Tom Docherty's, Swift to Battle Vol.1:1937 to 1942 (p.141) The photo is accredited to Cpl Graeme Gillard, who was an airframe fitter with 72 Sqn., and took many (illegal), candid shots of the squadron's activities. The photo is captioned: A 72 Sqn Spitfire climbs away from Ackilington in 1941 with RN-N in the foreground (G. Gillard).



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 10:46 AM

Do you mean Acklington?

Grandad must have been with 72 Squadron, as he was at Drem in 1939. He was a driver, and had memories of being the chap who lit the goose-neck flares when it was foggy. At some point he was transferred to the Middle East, so I don't know if he would have been in the UK in 1941

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 10:47 AM

Oh, and a big thanks to you all for your detective work :)




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