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#1 Armand

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Posted 02 September 2015 - 11:14 PM

Luftwaffemuseum in Berlin have an outdoor display of a handfull of surface to air missiles.
As SAM's probably mostly is percieved as a telephonepole with fire in the bottom end, I found it practical to use my visit to captive this exibition with a to You known Danish person in front to figure the size and dimensions:

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Posted 02 September 2015 - 11:26 PM

From war movies and litterature most of us reckognize the designation 'SAM' for Soviet ground to air missiles, however SAM is actual an abbreviation for all Surface to Air Missiles.
The earliest Soviet SAM at the Luftwaffemuseum display was the two-stage propelled S-75 (NATO named SA-2, and often mentioned as SAM-2)
The design is of 1957 and is still in use. It's considered the most widespread SAM at all.
S-75 went to be the Nemesis of Gary Power and his U2!
Short spec's: 11 meters long; max altitude is 25 km and operational range is 45 km!

In my eyes the S-75 is the slickest, hence nicest, of the five presented in this postings :-o

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Posted 02 September 2015 - 11:44 PM

This one is the S-125 (NATO designated as SA-3 and often called SAM-3)
The design originates from 1961 and are still in use.
Short spec's: 6 meters long; two stage propelled; max altitude 18km and operational range of 35km.
Though lesser spec's than the older SA-2 it's more versatile, especially against lower flying aircraft and the smaller second stage is more maneuverable.

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Posted 02 September 2015 - 11:56 PM

This one is the S-200 (NATO designated as SA-5 and often called SAM-5)
The design originates from 1967 and is to be considered as long range missile compared to the earlier missiles.
Short spec's: 11meters long; two stage propelled with four 'piggy-bag' booster-rockets. Max altitude 40km and 300km range.
This one seems to be missing elongated fins along the main body :-/

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Posted 03 September 2015 - 12:15 AM

The american MIM-23 HAWK (wich isn't named by the bird, but the akronym for 'Homing All the Way Killer')
The design originates from 1959 and was mostly phased out due to the Patriot-104 system of 1984 as it's latter mission also had changed to oppose oncoming missiles.
Short spec's: 5 meters long max altitude 14km and operational range of 45km.
To my knowledge it was used as low level protection of the Nike-Hercules sites in Denmark.

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Posted 03 September 2015 - 12:26 AM

The american MIM-14 Nike-Hercules
As the final development of the Nike and Nike-Ajax it was deployed in 1958 and kept frontline status until the 'Patriot-104 superceded it in 1988.
Short spec's: 12 meters long; Two stage propelled; max altitude 46km and operational range of 140km.
As the warhead could be nuclear it was evenly thought to be useable for ground targets too.

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Posted 03 September 2015 - 08:12 PM

Hi almond,liking the posts,very interesting,not something I have a lot of knowledge of,however the only thing that I am aware of are the SAM sites that were used in the Vietnam war over Hanoi and Saigon.I believe that the Sam Sites scored incredibly high rate of kills against American Aircraft .Ive heard of the Nike Ajax however but again my knowledge is limited.good topic though,find your comments interesting and the posts too,thanks for sharing that.
All the best Keith....

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 12:08 AM

Afaik Keith no SAMs in Saigon as there was no enemy a/c for them to be shot at.

 

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 12:18 AM

Armand, there is a post WW2 forum.

I know. But considered the word 'aviation' too dominant in the description, hence the use of this 'General aviation' wich doesn't seem as selective!

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 12:31 AM

Afaik Keith no SAMs in Saigon as there was no enemy a/c for them to be shot at..

:-)
There might have been quite many enemy a/c to shoot at, but it would have been difficult for DRV forces to maintain a battery of Soviet build SAM's operational around Saigon during the air-campaign of the Vietnam war ;-)

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