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POLIKARPOV I-16 PERFORMANCE / TIMELINE


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#1 CORSNING

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:02 PM

Like most other Russian aircraft of WW2, there just isn't much in the way of official documents to be had (at least not yet) by the average enthusiast. The following site helps considerably. http://www.rkka.es/a...iones_index.htm

 

 

 

Russian Graph 0102:

 

Speed is in mph. I-16/(type No.)

 

 

Meters.I-16/4....I-16/5...I-16/10...I-16/17...I-16/18...I-16/24

S.L........223......247.......252........238........259........259

.1.000...223......254.......256........256........264........264

.2,000...220......266.5....266.5.....266........271.5.....271.5

.3,000...215......275.......276.5.....263.5.....274........274

.4,000...210......272.......274........258........285........284

.5,000...204.5...268.......266........248........286........292.5

.6,000...198.5...262.......256........235........281........286

.7.000...190......256.6................................272........278.5

.8,000........................................................261.5.....267

 

Full throttle height: (4): 223/S.L., (5): 275/8,860 ft., (10): 279/10,480 ft., (17): 264/8,460 ft., (18): 288.6/14,330 ft. and (24 w/M-62): 295/15,550 ft.

 

 

Turn...12-15...14-15....16-18.....17-18...17-18.5...17-18 / 18.5-20

 

Engine:M-22...M-25.....M-25V....M-25V...M-62.......M-62 / M-63

 

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Edited by CORSNING, 26 December 2015 - 03:07 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 05:58 PM

Conversations with N. G. Golodnikov I found very interesting and enlightening. The article(s) are a four part interview with Russian WW2 pilot NIkolay Gerasimovich Golodnikov (N.G.). He gives his opinions of the I-16, Hurricane, P-40, Lavochkins, Yakovlevs, P-39s Me.109s, Fw-190s and much much more. The original article was written by Andrey Sokhorukov (A.S.). The following is just a very very few parts of that interview.

 

A.S.: What was your general impression of the I-16?

 

N.G.: The I-16 was a complicated aircraft, demanding in piloting technique. It could fall into a spin at the slightest "overhandling" of the stick. True, one could recover quickly, whether from a simple or inverted spin, The I-16 was very agile and could execute any maneuver. I loved this fighter.

 

A.S.: ....., is it true that in an I-16 one could literally "execute a spiral around a telephone pole?"

 

N.G.: It is true that as far as horizontal maneuvers were concerned, this was a unique aircraft.

 

A.S: ......, was the I-16 a great deal less capable than the Messerschmitt?

 

N.G.: .........The I-16 types -28 and -29 were superior to the Bf-109E. They were capable of the same (COMBAT) speed and in maneuverability, in the vertical plane, the Ishak surpassed the E model.

 

N.G.: Combat speed is a range of maximum possible speeds that an aircraft can develop for the conduct of active maneuver aerial battle, and at which all forms of maneuver attendant to that battle can be executed.

 

A.S.: Nikolay Gerasimovich, if you had a choice, in which airplane would you prefer to fight, the I-16 or the Hurricane?

 

 

The answer to this question is at the end of part 1. Ah...I can't continue to write the whole article and give up all the answers. If you are interested in any of the fighters listed above, then the article is a must to read. Nikolay's opinions of these aircraft (in my opinion) are not just his alone.

 

http://lend-lease.ai...nikov/part1.htm

 

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Edited by CORSNING, 13 January 2018 - 07:36 PM.


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 11:12 PM

I think the losses Frontal Aviation suffered in the beginning of the war are far more eloquent than 1 man's view of the I-16. 



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Posted 25 November 2013 - 11:35 PM

"Soviet Storm" is a Russian television series on "The Great Patriotic War". Watch episode 12 for coverage of the air war. I think you will enjoy it.

 

 

The Seagull and I-16 were replaced by more modern designs that could keep apace of the Luftwaffe. 



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Posted 25 November 2013 - 11:55 PM

Another video you have probably seen documents the I-16:

 



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:45 PM

hammy627,

 

Thank you for posting the videos. I get the feeling the VVS pilots thought of their I-16s in 1941 as IJN pilots thought of their A6Ms in 1943/44. They liked the responsiveness of their fighters at low speeds but their enemies weren't playing that game anymore.



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:54 AM

Yes, I think you sum it up well!



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Posted 02 December 2013 - 01:18 AM

There is a harsh review of the I-16 performance(which is called e-16 in the video) on this Russian Documentary. It also has very good coverage of the difference in Soviet fighter models. I-16 review at 12:15

 

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 05:25 PM

hammy627,

Thank you for posting the Russian fighter video. I enjoyed watching it. A couple things I noted. First the narrator made the statement around 42:00 minutes into the video that the Russian pilots found it easier to fight the Fw 190 than the Bf 109. This agrees with what Nikolay says in his interview.

Second statement was concerning the French Yak-3s. 40 fighters given and not one accident from the end of WW2 until they were retired in 1956. IMHO that says a lot for an aircrafts handling qualities.

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:44 PM

Polikarpov I-16 type 29

 

Russian Graphs 0204/0205: Fighter series as of May-June 1941.

 

Altitude/Speed/Climb

Meters/mph/fpm

S.L----267/2915

1,000-272/3170

2,000-278/2915

3,000-278/2560

4,000-286/2675

5,000-289/2560

6,000-284/2125

7,000-278/1690

8,000-NG./1250

9,000-NG./-845

 

Speed:

Full throttle height low s/c: 280 mph./1,700 m. (5.577 ft.)

Switch low/high s/c: 272 mph./2,750 m. (9,022 ft.)

Full throttle high s/c: 290 mph./4,500 m. (14,764 ft.)

Climb:

Critical altitude low s/c: 3,250 fpm./1,350 m. (4,429 ft.)

Switch low/high s/c: 2,590 fpm./9,022 ft.)

Critical altitude high s/c: 2,735 fpm./4,550 m. (14,927 ft.)

 

Most of the following information comes from Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War Vol.1

 

Turn Time: 16-17 seconds left / 19 seconds right

 

Ceilings

Combat: 28,270 ft.

Operational: 32,100 ft.

Service: 35,070 ft.

 

Range Clean: 273 mls.

 

Armament: 2 x 7.62mm and 1 x 12.7mm

 

Wing Area: 156.1 sq.ft.

 

Wing Loading: 27.40-lbs./sq.ft.

 

Power Loading: 3.888+lbs./hp.

 

Engine: M-63: 1,100 hp.

 

Combat Weight: 4,277 lbs.


Edited by CORSNING, 27 December 2015 - 06:15 PM.





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