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Poll: Which Was the Best 1942 Dive Bomber in That Role (20 member(s) have cast votes)

Which Was the Best 1942 Dive Bomber in That Role

  1. Aichi D3A Val (3 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  2. Douglas SBD Dauntless (10 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  3. Junkers Ju 87 Stuka (6 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  4. Pertlyakov Pe-2 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Blackburn Skua (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 05:48 PM

I'd also agree with Ricky , the Stuka ,he has a valid point,nice one Ricky..
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 10:03 AM

Although the Stuka had the automatic pull out system which allowed steeper dives ,it was in my opinion a little sluggish,my reason being it suffered badly in the Battle Of Britian,however its use in Poland and hitters blitzkrieg tactics seem to suggest other wise.Any how that's just my thoughts
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 01:56 PM

The SBD's range is what I have the biggest question with.  I see it all over the place, my guess it's due to it's range being factored as a scout, with a 250kg bomb, and a 1000kg bomb.  But you can't have both - pick the great range or the heavier bomb load, don't pick scout range with a heavy bomb load.

 

Overall I think it was a little superior to the Stuka in range, tho this could vary a lot.  What type of extra fuel carried, which version, etc., etc. all made a difference.

 

Both were rather rugged.

 

I'd say it's a real close call between the Stuka and the SBD - we just have to compare verisons of both planes that were available at the same time. 

The Ju 87 up to the 'C' could fly 373 mls. with 1,540 lbs. of bombs. The Ju 87D versions were first delivered in May 1941. They could fly 620 mls. with a 3,968 lbs. bomb load. The SBD of 1942 were the SBD-2/-4 versions. They could fly 740 mls. with a 1,600 lbs. bomb load. I am just filling in some information. I have not studied bombers enough to make an intelligent choice.

One thing I have read though, is that when they were tested for interception by other Allied fighters. The Hurricane was the one chosen to best intercept the A-24 (Army version of SBD) because of the maneuverability capabilities of the Army Dauntless. The Hurricane was said to have had a slightly tighter turning ability.

Cheer, Jeff



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 07:24 AM

Stuka. Not by the sound of siren, but from the evaluation of Eric "Winkle" Brown.

 

http://users.skynet....tory/stuka.html

 

 
During W.W.II, several Ju 87s fell into allied hands, but not until at the end of the war the famous British test pilot Eric Brown had the opportunity to fly an Ju 87D-3. He had flown numerous allied dive bombers, such as the Blackburn Skua, the Vultee A-35 Vengeance, the Vought SB2U, the Douglas SBD Dauntless and the Curtiss SB2C Helldiver. Therefore he was in an excellent position to compare these aircraft.

To him the Ju 87D-3 - then completely obsolete - imparted an "almost oppressive" sense of vulnerability. The pilot sat high a the greenhouse company, with an excellent view all around, but also terribly exposed. The Ju 87D-3 accelerated well on take-off, but climbed slowly, and was both too slow to escape from fighter attack and too stable to evade it. Briefly, the Ju 87 was an "ideal target", even for the most inexperienced fighter pilot.

On the other hand Brown confirmed that the Ju 87 was ideal for dive bombing, "a genuine 90 deg screamer", in which it felt quite natural to be in a vertical dive. Dive bombing practice in the Ju 87 he found "more enjoyable... than I had ever experienced with any other aircraft of this specialist type."

Before the dive, the aircraft had to be trimmed for cruise conditions, the bomb release altitude was be set, and the cooler flaps closed. Deploying the dive brakes automatically put the Ju 87 into a dive, and engaged a security device which limited the control column movement to 5 degrees from neutral -- enough to give effective control for bomb-aiming, but preventing manoeuvres which could overstress the aircraft. After bomb release the Ju 87 pulled itself out of the dive. The pilot then closed the dive brakes, and climbed away.

Compared with other dive bombers, the Ju 87 left a favourable impression. If it was vulnerable, it was not more so than the Douglas SBD Dauntless, the Aichi D3A Val, or the Blackburn Skua. And it was more accurate than any of those.

 


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 09:48 AM

Great article Herakulman.

 

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