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Poll: Heavy bombardment machine choice? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Heavy bombardment machine choice?

  1. Avro Lancaster (15 votes [62.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.50%

  2. Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress (8 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  3. Consolodated B-24 Liberator (1 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  4. Handley Page Halifax (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 Wuzak

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:15 PM

Imagine you have been given the task, in early 1943, of leading a heavy bomber force for the purpose of destroying German industry.

You have the choice of 4 heavy bombers:

1. Avro Lancaster

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2. Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress

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3. Consolodated B-24 Liberator

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4. Handly Page Halifax

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You can bomb day or night, or both, and assume you have been able to build up a force of long range escorts, for both day and night sorties, which can cover the bombers on all but the longest range missions.

Also assume that you can only procure one type for this task, and that equipment (eg bomb sight) will be the same.

Which bomber do you choose?
Do you bomb by day or night, or both?
Do you have any (minor) upgrades to request?

#2 Kutscha

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 01:41 PM

There is only 2 that can be considered as they had a heavy bomb load. The other 2 had medium bomb loads.

Lancaster and then the Halifax. Both would get .50" mgs.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 12:41 PM

I would have to say the Avro Lancaster.

Predominantly due to its then massive (and useful) bomb load.

Also its massive bomb bay gave the design much growth, versatility and diversity of roles and missions.

Its strength was also impressive!

Although I would have opted for 12.7mm MG in place of 7.92mm any day!!!

I would also have opted for a ventral turret somewhere, somehow???


But is it not somewhat ironic that the poor old Halifax was overshadowed by the Lancaster, while the B-17 overshadowed the importance of the B-24!!



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Posted 18 December 2009 - 12:38 AM

The Flying Fortress!

Daylight intrusions, naturally. For the purpose of stunning the Germans with Art Deco beauty!

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 12:08 PM

It is interesting that the B-17 and B-24 both started without nose turrets, but with hand held guns, and finished with nose turrets. Meanwhile the Halifax started with a front turret and ended with a glazed nose with a hand held gun.

The difference between day and night operations and requirements.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 01:00 PM

It is interesting that the B-17 and B-24 both started without nose turrets, but with hand held guns, and finished with nose turrets. Meanwhile the Halifax started with a front turret and ended with a glazed nose with a hand held gun.

The difference between day and night operations and requirements.


And if you were a member of the crew and wanted to survive, which one?

#7 Wuzak

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:07 AM

Evidently there wasn't much use for a front turret at night, and the extra speed without one was most desirable.

During the day with the tactics evolved around mutual defensive fire, and the Liftwaffe's tactics of head on attacks make forward facing guns a requirement. Whether they need be fixed guns (as on the side on B-26s) or mounted in turrets is debatable.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:21 PM

Avro Lancaster, but armed with .5 Browning's and 20mm canons.It was fast, heavy loaded, well defended ( of course, a ventral turett might be wellcomed...) and, why not, a beautiful plane !

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:42 AM

Hey, where's the King of the WWII Heavies, the Boeing B-29?

It is, by FAR, the best, being simultaneously the fastest, longest range, most payload, best defended bomber of the war.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:01 AM

Hey, where's the King of the WWII Heavies, the Boeing B-29?

It is, by FAR, the best, being simultaneously the fastest, longest range, most payload, best defended bomber of the war.


Not to be found as it is a super heavy. :)




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