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Best (Allied) Fighter-Bomber of WW2


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Poll: Best Allied Fighter-Bomber (32 member(s) have cast votes)

Best Allied Fighter-Bomber

  1. Hawker Typhoon (8 votes [24.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.24%

  2. Republic P-47 Thunderbolt (10 votes [30.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.30%

  3. Lockheed P-38 Lightning (4 votes [12.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.12%

  4. Vought F4U Corsair (2 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

  5. de Havilland Mosquito FBVI (5 votes [15.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.15%

  6. Other (4 votes [12.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.12%

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#61 Mercman

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 06:09 AM

This poll is a bit topical, given the current West versus Russian discussion thread.

 

It is notable that both the Germans & the Western Allies realised that their twin-engined aircraft were too big & vulnerable

for real A2G/close support duties ( even the P-38 was withdrawn after suffering prohibitively).

 

& none of the USAAF A-attack machines were up to the task either, the A-24 went to the USMC, A-36's were used up in Italy,

with the A-26 was being used( & later re-designated) as a medium bomber.

 

I know it is 'fashionable' these days for some to claim that F-B's were flak-bait, & were more costly for the Allies than to the Germans,

but examination of the unfortunate 'friendly fire' incidents ( the savage strafing meted out kept secret in Allied records), belies this.

 

Of the aircraft on the poll, as far as performance goes, inc' weaponry - the Typhoon is the pick, as shown by the RAF choosing

to employ its own Thunderbolts only against the lesser forces of Nippon, on the Burma front, & not in the real hot zone of the ETO.

 

As some have pointed out, the P-47 was at its best above 15,000 ft, where it could take on the 109/190s, but in fact, there

was not much A2G 'trade' to be had - up that high in Europe, whereas that 0 -15,000 ft zone was where the Typhoon shined. 

 

Interviews with Jagdwaffe pilots show that they fancied their chances on the deck against the 9th AF's P-47's,

esp' when heavily bomb-laden, & rating even a forced ordnance jettison as a form of success.



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 06:54 PM

Since this doesn't say best in the ETO I had to keep an open mind about some planes.  Allied I assume also includes the Soviet planes of the era but honestly I can't think of one that excelled in both roles and should therefore be included (perhaps someone else can think of one?)

 

The question of the one plane that was best in these two roles is pretty specific to me: the winning plane would have to excel at both fighter and attack roles, not just one or the other.  It's not which plane is the best multi-role, it's specifically fighter-bomber.   That's why I pass on planes like the Beaufighter, Spitfire, Mossie, IL-2, P-51 and a few others.  These all excel at one or the other but not both roles in my opinion.  I don't see the Mossie in an air superiority role or the P-51 as a truly effective attack plane even though they both were great at what they did.   

 

You almost have to figure out which plane 'averaged out' as the best in these two roles---maybe not the best in either role but one that can hold its own in either and perhaps excel up to a point.  The one that pops up in my mind is the P-47.  I feel that it's the one plane that was capable of either role and in actual fact (not just in theory) did excel at both.   When the P-47 was the only escort fighter available,  it managed to help produce some of the highest scoring USAAF aces of the ETO: Gabreski, R.S. Johnson, Schilling and others had plenty of success with the P-47.  In fact Gabreski was the highest scoring USAAF ace of the ETO and flew Thunderbolts exclusively.   In my mind that fulfills the fighter role capably.   The P-51 and Spitfire might be more capable as a fighter but they were not as successful in the attack role so were more one-dimensional in my opinion.  

 

Same can be said for planes like the Typhoon, Tempest and others: good in the attack role, perhaps better than the P-47 but not in the fighter role.  It's been mentioned already these were best below 20K or so, which meant they were not optimum for the bomber-escort duty that was to me more fighter specific.  

 

Plenty of planes were pretty good at both, or great at one or the other but I'd say the P-47 was all-around the best at doing both these roles.  

 

 



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Posted 26 April 2017 - 01:28 PM

From September 1941 to somewhere in mid 1943 I am going with the Typhoon Ib.

From mid-1943 to January 1944 the P-47D and Typhoon in somewhat of a tie.

From January 1944 to January 1945 the P-47D

From January 1945 to May 1945 the Improved P-47D and F4U-1D are pretty close.

    

In May 1945 the P-47N and F4U-4 were introduced and could be considered very close

     If I had to chose only one during this area I think I would lean slightly toward the F4U-4.  

     That's more a personal preference than any solid reasoning. :)

 

And that's all I have to say about that, Jeff B)  :rolleyes:


Edited by CORSNING, 27 April 2017 - 08:32 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 09:59 PM

The Tempest V was used as an air superiority fighter covering the Typhoons and Spitfires. Hard points on the Tempest were used to carry drop tanks. Not that it didn't attack ground targets of opportunity with it 4 20mm cannons.


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 08:36 PM

Kutscha,

     Thank you. What is your resources for this information?


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 09:20 PM

Some books on the Typhoon and Tempest.

 

plus, http://www.hawkertem...ction/worldwar2


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 10:43 PM

This is a good read as well: www.amazon.com/Tempest-Pilot-CJ-Sheddan/dp/1906502951






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