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#1 RNL

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 11:20 PM

Hi!

I live in Poland, in the nearby of Poznan in western part of the country. Some time ago, walking the dog in the forest, I found lots of metallic parts lying around the trees. At the first glance, I recognized parts of the airplane, but the type of the machine has been a mistery for me since than.
First, I was sure, that I am dealing with He111 meteo version, shot down by Lt. Giedymin in the early days of the WWII, but this plane hit the ground around 6km west from the location of the debris I found.
Right now, I have no idea if the plane was German or Russian, or maybe post-war, as the area was formerly a military exercice field.
Help me please...

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 05:44 PM

Hi RNL, and welcome to the forum.

From the pictures, I cannot tell either, but maybe you can find some more recognizable pieces in the future. Good luck!

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:06 PM

Unfortunately due to the pics uploading limits I had to remove some pictures from the first post.
Let's take a look again, please

the only inscription I found...

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parts of the canopy?

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the bullet hole?

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:08 PM

few more:


rather not a machine gun ;)

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parts of cockpit?

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parts of the engine?
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Part of the rear gunner windscreen?

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 04:38 AM

Hi RNL,

I shall transfer this to luftwaffe-bullet-board.com (but not before this evening). It may take some time for an answer.

Regards, RT

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 02:38 AM

WOW! That certainly makes a trek through the woods more interesting.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 04:29 PM

Hi RNL,

I got no good answers. Most guess it is a Soviet plane. The third-last picture (the part which forms a triangle) may be an instrument panel. The use of the letter "Z" (imprinted "1KZ" in the first picture) does not necessarily indicate A German plane, the Russians used it too, although it does not belong to the Cyrillian alphabet.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:01 PM

Hi RNL,

I got no good answers. Most guess it is a Soviet plane. The third-last picture (the part which forms a triangle) may be an instrument panel. The use of the letter "Z" (imprinted "1KZ" in the first picture) does not necessarily indicate A German plane, the Russians used it too, although it does not belong to the Cyrillian alphabet.

Regards, RT


To be honest, I think it's Russian, too. I am not even convinced if the letter "Z" shouldn't be read rather as "7" and, as far as I know Russian alphabet (and learning of Russian used to be obligatory in Poland) this "K" looks pretty much as Cyrillian letter. Still, there are no signs of any other warbird shot down in the area, despite of the He111.
I was thinking, about such a possibility, that those debris were brought once, by a flood, as they are located near the river bank (50-100m away), and there was a plane crash in late 40-ties around 15km away, at the bank of the same river, and it was the Pe-2, that crashed.




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