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#1 fw190d11

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 06:58 AM

Any pix anywhere? Ive checked on the board and the one Photobucket link is dead. Heck, ive run Google and found only one "art piece" showing 153's vs Fw190's (a mismatch, I suspect).

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#2 GregP

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 11:48 AM

I have only seen a drawing ... sort of like a Brewster Buffalo with a bubble canopy.

I know, an awful description, but that's what it looks like to me.

Note I do not claim it FLEW like a Buffalo ... :)

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 01:55 PM

Bristol Type 153 - Hercules powered low wing fighter based on the 151 to meet Spec F37/35 - (the Whirlwind spec) with 4 cannons, 2 in each wing requiring blisters in the wing - The wing was larger than the Type 151 which would have improved climb and manoeuvrability. Top speed expected to be 357 mph at 12.500 ft with full military load. Service ceiling 33,200 ft. If it had gone into production the Type153 would have benefited from the steady development of the Hercules engine - from 1,150 hp in 1939 to 2,000 hp at the end of the war.



Was the picture from here

http://myspace.virgi...dell/AArt3.html


Given the problems that Secret Projects site seems to be having with Midland Publishers (publishers of Tony Buttler's Secret Projects book), it would be a good idea to be careful about posting scans from their books until we know what the situation is at Secret Projects.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 06:28 AM

quote:
Was the picture from here

http://myspace.virgi...dell/AArt3.html


Yes, that's it. I was hoping someone had a line drawing or topview plan.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:12 PM

The Beaufighter, you mean [8D]

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#6 Ricky

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:45 PM

quote:Originally posted by Tony Williams

The Beaufighter, you mean [8D]

:DFunnily enough I was reading a book just last week where the author called it that. It was a really good book...

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 04:08 AM

Bristol aware of the pitfalls of having the cannon in underwing pods, designed an alternative to the same specification. The Type 153A a twin-engined (aquila) seat fighter - similar in layout to Gruman's Skyrocket.
Neither version found favour with the Ministry - whose order for five prototypes from three manufactures was slashed by the Treasury to only Westland.

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 06:46 AM

quote:Originally posted by merlin

Bristol aware of the pitfalls of having the cannon in underwing pods, designed an alternative to the same specification. The Type 153A a twin-engined (aquila) seat fighter - similar in layout to Gruman's Skyrocket.
Neither version found favour with the Ministry - whose order for five prototypes from three manufactures was slashed by the Treasury to only Westland.


Typical the Treasury wreaking havoc with our fighter defences. I take it this was before the war? Because I read somewhere long ago that when the war actually started the Treasury was sidelined, the Chancellor of the Exchequer even bieng excluded from the inner war cabinet. This was very wise, but too late for the planes featured in this thread.

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 10:22 AM

I tell you what
That artist work of the Bristol Type 153 mixing it with the Fw-190’s at http://myspace.virgi...dell/AArt3.html looks like a Mitsubishi Zero in RAF colours – especially with that fuselage-mounted drop tank arrangement

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#10 ChrisMcD

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 10:56 PM

quote:Originally posted by conrad Because I read somewhere long ago that when the war actually started the Treasury was sidelined, the Chancellor of the Exchequer even bieng excluded from the inner war cabinet.


I will have to look up the reference, but apparently one Civil Servant did help. About 1936 he refused to believe that the RAF's 'the bomber will always get through' mantra and realised that single engined fighters were a lot cheaper than multi engined bombers. So the RAF's expansion plans were rejigged to have a lot more fighters!

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Posted 17 May 2008 - 12:35 PM

quote:Originally posted by fw190d11

Any pix anywhere?


Small image from CH Barne's 'Bristol Aircraft'

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Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:03 PM

Excellent, illustrates what I said earlier about the similarity of the Type 153A with the 'Skyrocket'. Though I suspect the latter would have been a bigger aircraft.
Mind you, regarding the Type 153 I don't thing it shows well enough the podded nature of the cannon arrangement.




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