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Double T
26th October 2005, 04:30
This piece was in our Sunday local newspaper:
The Bloomington, IN Herald-Times.
--Tim
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Tuskegee Airmen suit-up to Inspire Troops
--Aging members of historic fighter group
visit air forces in Iraq

Associated Press
October 23, 2005

TUSKEGEE, Ala. - Lt. Col. Herbert Carter is 86 years old and ready for deployment.

More than 60 years after his World War II tour with the pioneering black pilots known as the Tuskegee Airmen, Carter's new mission will be shorter, though no less courageous.

Carter is one of seven aging Tuskegee Airmen traveling this weekend to Balad, Iraq - a city ravaged by roadside bombs and insurgent activity - to inspire a younger generation of airmen who carry on the traditions of the storied 332nd Fighter Group.

"I don't think it hurts to have someone who can empathize with them and offer them encouragement," he said.

The three-day visit was put together by officials with the U.S. Central Command Air Forces to link the legacy of the Tuskegee Airmen with a new generation.

"This group represents the linkage between the 'greatest generation' of airmen and the 'latest generation' of airmen," said Lt. Gen. Walter Buchanan III, commander of the Air Forces command, in an e-mail to the Associated Press.

The retired Airmen who will make the trip - five pilots, a mechanic and a supply officer - shrugged off the dangers of Iraq, saying they have stared down the enemy before. Some fought in Korea and Vietnam as well as World War II.

Current members of the 332nd, redesignated as the 332nd Air Expeditionary Group in 1998, include men and women of different backgrounds and races.

But the black retirees said they are thrilled that a group still fights within their 332nd lineage, regardless of skin color.

"I'm proud they're in a unit carrying our name," said Charles McGee, 82, a retired colonel whose 409 combat missions is an Air Force record. "That's very meaningful from the heritage point of view.

They made history
The original Tuskegee Airmen were recruited in an Army Air Corps program created to train blacks to fly and maintain combat aircraft during World War II - although some of the retired Airmen say it was really designed to try to prove that blacks were incapable of flying and fighting.

Even after the first group completed pilot training in March 1942, they were not allowed to fly for more than a year.

Eventually, the black airmen flew escort for bombers. They were credited with shooting down more than 100 enemy aircraft and never losing an American bomber under escort to enemy fighters. In all, 992 pilots were trained in Tuskegee from 1940 to 1946. About 450 deployed overseas and 150 lost their lives in training or combat.

Only about 100 Tuskegee Airmen are still living.

Che_Guevara
26th October 2005, 07:50
Nice story indeed, there is still one P-51 C of the Tuskegees flying.

http://www.ronsarchive.com/geneseo/images/2002_07_13_P-51C_42-103645_NL61429_Tuskegee_Airmen_24.jpg

Lightning
28th October 2005, 01:11
Hi Che,

That photograph almost makes me prefer the P-51B/C to the P-51D. It's amazing how the angle from which a photo is taken makes all the difference in the world.

Regards,
Lightning

simon
28th October 2005, 01:19
It may not be flying, I seem to recall that unfortunately a red tailed P-51C crashed killing the pilot a bit more than a year ago, could well have been this one, especially as P-51B and Cs are much rarer than D/K's. The group flying it were determined to restore it to flying condition once more, however long it took.

Che_Guevara
28th October 2005, 01:35
quote:Originally posted by simon

It may not be flying, I seem to recall that unfortunately a red tailed P-51C crashed killing the pilot a bit more than a year ago, could well have been this one, especially as P-51B and Cs are much rarer than D/K's. The group flying it were determined to restore it to flying condition once more, however long it took.


Yes, it was Donald Hinz a member of the Commemorative Air Force, who was killed in this accident. :(

The P-51C lost the right at first and then the left wing, when both hit trees, during an emergency landing. I´ve read this an the flugzeug classic magazine (August 2004) and there are impressive pics of the P-51C in flight, however the author metioned that the C-Version was 35 km/h faster then the later D-models, is that correct?

BlackWolf3945
28th October 2005, 18:17
There's another P-51C with 332nd FG markings in airworthy condition; 'INA the Macon Belle', owned by Kermit Weeks.

I whipped up a quickie webpage with some groovy photos for your enjoyment...

'INA the Macon Belle' (http://hawksnest.1hwy.com/ZMISC/332CharlieStang.html)


Fade to Black...

Ricky
28th October 2005, 18:57
Wow!

Thanks BlackWolf3945!

Oh, and welcome aboard:)

Lightning
29th October 2005, 00:59
Hi Che,

I know that the P-51B/C was faster than the P-51D, but I don't know by how much. I thought it was not quite 35 km/h, but I honestly don't know. The "B/C" was also a better-handling airplane than the "D".

Regards,
Lightning

Bearcat
29th December 2005, 14:31
Actually there are a few.... The Tuskegee Airmen P-51C did indeed crash on May 29th of 04. The pilot Don Hinz was killed. They are trying to restore the bird. Kermit Week's bird is still a hottie though.... a thing of beauty. Here: http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/survivors/ is a link to a site that has a listing of flying survivors.. I dont know how accurate it is. It says that there is also a D modeled after Roscoe Brown's bird.... Bunnie..