Fw-190 Found In A Forest!

[Trexx]

I'm not sure how old this footage is. But it's dang neat-o.
Check this out, friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jueDXiuU6aM&feature=related

We should all be taking more day hikes!

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As I recall from an Aviation Classics or Air Power magazine from the late 1980s, in 1940 on the Western Slopes of the Sierra Nevada Range, approximately 20 P-40s (Kittyhawks) were lost in a winter storm while being ferried. Some crashed around Bass Lake in what is now Cameron Park California U.S. A. and others crashed further up, between there and Lake Tahoe. The title of the article was "The Day It Rained P-40s" I live about 12 miles from Bass Lake.

[Kutscha]

The loss of Fw190 A5/U3 W.Nr 1227.

On Monday 19th July 1943 Fw190 A-5 W.Nr 1227 'White A' went on a mission
carrying a SC250 (550Ib) bomb. Taking off from Siwerskaja, on what was
probably a hot summer day, 'White A' headed for the Front line which was
only fifteen or so minutes flight time away. Crossing the front line
over the Dvina River, the Fw190, flying with another crossed it and
headed East. Whilst behind enemy lines, in an area called Voibakala, the
'Rotte' attacked an armoured train and reportedly suffered damage from
flak. The loss report indicates the Fw190 crash landed due to this
damage, although none was located on the airframe. It Fw190 suffered a
catastrophic failure of the BMW801, caused by a rag -sabotage is
suspeced as it was a new engine was fitted a few days before). The Fw190
was recorded as being 100% lost in the map reference co-ordinates of
Pl.Qu.20124. This grid system based on 1:200,000 maps was used to
identify crash sites, possibly for salvage, recovery of missing pilots
or as the best way of identifying an area consisting of unpronounceable
Russian towns, villages and large areas of forests and lakes. The more
numbers the Pl.Qu. reference gives, the smaller the area of the
location. A key to this 'code', would help identify literally dozens of
possible recoveries within Russia!!
The pilot Feldwebel Paul Rätz survived the crash landed behind enemy
lines. He removed his leather flying helmet and retrieved the first air
kit from the rear fuselage and is thought to have headed West back to
the front line only a dozen or so miles from the crash site. He was
undoubtedly captured by the Russians and interned although the Luftwaffe
loss report still class him as 'Vermißt' (missing) in action.

Notes
The fourth Staffeln of Jagdgeschwader 54 'Grunherz' only seemed to have
carried this unusual white letter combination for a few months through
the summer and autumn of 1943. On returning to join the II Gruppe again,
the staffel reverted to the number system again. There are only two
other known 4/JG54 loses where Fw190's have been recorded as lost with
these distinctive markings.

• On 8th July 1943 the relatively new Fw190 A-5, W.Nr 1520 'White D' was
100% crashed whilst taking off with the pilot killed.
• On 23rd August 1943 Fw190 A-4, W.Nr 5808 'White B' was classed as 100%
lost when it crash landed due to flak damage at location Pl.Qu.18212.
The pilot was injured but returned safely to his unit.

Found in silver birch forest 1989. Recovered 1991. Doug/David Arnold and
now Paul Allen.

saved another board

[Romantic Technofreak]

Trexx said:
I live about 12 miles from Bass Lake.So what about to start scuba diving? Hope the basses did not eat all the leftovers...;)

Not long time ago, I learned that the big pre-war and war aviation collection of Berlin, including the gigantic Do X, was not lost in an air attack. Instead, the samples were "taken to safe places", e.g. scuttled in lakes in the Eastern part of Germany that now belongs to Poland. Research of the (comparedly new) Deutsches Technikmuseum gave that there are nearly no leftovers - they were already illegally salvaged and sold rsp. recycled by the population which, after the war, was in bad need of everything...
Some leftovers, including the Me 209 speed record plane and the fuselage of Udet's Curtiss Hawk, are in the aviation museum in Krakow, the Polish won't give them back.

Did you ever hear about the FW 200 wreck in the Norwegian mountains? The Deutsches Technikmuseum also wants to recover it, but I heared the Norwegian local population wants to keep it where it is, as a war monument... also no chance to get it. Maybe they want to attract some tourists...

I found some pictures of it. Scroll for the "Tysk Bombefly" (= German bomber) and increase. One picture even shows a BMW 323 Bramo "piston star".

http://dokkeveien.uib.no/frode/vossnow/vis.asp?NAV=9&sok=kvitanosi&kriterie=2&felt=tekst&sortering=tekst&storleik=&sok2=&kriterie2=2&alt=AND

http://dokkeveien.uib.no/frode/vossnow/vis.asp?NAV=11&sok=kvitanosi&kriterie=2&felt=tekst&sortering=tekst&storleik=&sok2=&kriterie2=2&alt=AND

Regards, RT