Bf 110 'Jaguar'

[Ricky]

Does anybody know anything about this plane?

A friend has leant me his (rather battered) copy of "Aircraft of the Fighting Powers" originally printed in Britain in December 1940 (although his is the 6th re-print).

In the section on the Bf110 it includes the sentance:

quote:The bomber version of the Me.110, known as the "Jaguar," has been issued to some staffels

And it has these pictures

http://tanksww2f.chollie.co.uk/files/Aircraft/Bf110Jaguar.JPG
http://tanksww2f.chollie.co.uk/files/Aircraft/Bf110Jaguar2.JPG

[Red Admiral]

More commonly called the Bf 161/162

http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vues/me162_3v.jpg

[ChrisMcD]

It just shows that German Intelligence had a real circus 'spoofing' British and French intelligence.

We were convinced that the Me162, He112 and Do215 were all in full service, but that the Fw 190 was actualy the Curtis Hawk!

[Tophe]

Thanks for these pictures and links, much unknown, and very pleasant for what-ifers...:D

[montanamotor]

A little more "what-if", please?

No problem! See:

http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/nemecke/me-261.htm

The Messerschmitt Me 261 "Adolfine" (PEW!), a long-range derivate of the Me 161.

No, I don't speak czech. But someone may find the contained data and 3-view-drawing interesting.

This craft might be a great piece for an aeromodeller to build: A german twin-engined super-long-range destroyer and reccon-plane no-one knows? WOW!

Cheers!

Montanamotor

[GregP]

The Bf 161 was a reconaissance version of the Bf 110 with a new nose. Development was abandoned when it was realized that much simpler modifications would suffice.

The Bf 162 was an unsuccessful light bomber competitor of the Ju 88, with a glazed nose. Three were built and were used in a propaganda campaign.

Some specifications:

Bf 161
Span: 17.1 m
Length: 12.54 m
Height: 3.60 m
Wing Area: 38.5 m2
Engine Mfg: DB
Engine Type: DB 600 Aa
Power: 735 kW
Empty: 4400 kg
Loaded: 5800 kg
Max Speed: 486 kph
Cruise: 437 kph
Ceiling: 6200 m
Range: 870 km
Guns: 1 x 7.9 mm MG


Bf 162 (shown in the post)
Span: 17.1 m
Length: 12.75 m
Height: 3.60 m
Wing Area: 38.5 m2
Engine Mfg: DB
Engine Type: DB 600 Aa
Power: 735 kW
Empty: 4400 kg
Loaded: 5800 kg
Max Speed: 480 kph
Cruise: 423 kph
Ceiling: 6000 m
Range: 780 km
Guns: 1 x 7.9 mm MG

[Ricky]

Thanks for the answers guys!

I guess it goes into he same category as the He112 (I'll bet that is in the book too!)

[Romantic Technofreak]

Messerschmitt often profited from purely political decisions, but he also could become a victim of those. In case of the Bf 162, this came true. It could have been the better bomber than the Ju 88, running the same speed on much less engine power, and looking to be a real contender of the Petlyakov Pe-2. The following link is pretty sufficient, my "Nowarra" also doesn´t say much more:

http://www.histaviation.com/Messerschmitt__Bf_162.html

Regards, RT

[Ricky]

quote:Originally posted by Ricky

I guess it goes into he same category as the He112 (I'll bet that is in the book too!)


Well, the He113 is there!:D

I also have the RAF yearbook 1939-40, which contains the He112...;)

[Lightning]

Hi Chris,

Quoting you:
quote:It just shows that German Intelligence had a real circus 'spoofing' British and French intelligence.

We were convinced that the Me162, He112 and Do215 were all in full service, but that the Fw 190 was actualy the Curtis Hawk

I wrote this back on Feb. 7, 2004 in the "Best Fighter" thread:

quote:The He 100 (He-112) Is not appropriate to this dicussion. This aircraft,although a good performer, was never accepted by the Luftwaffe much less make it to production. The prototype and about a dozen "pre-production" models were privatly built by Heinkle in the hope that it would be accepted.

These planes were provided to the Luftwaffe strictly for propaganda purposes and to fool English intelligence into believing that a new fighter had arrived on the scene. The dozen-or-so airccraft were repeatedly painted in different paint schemes to make it look like they existed in larger numbers.
It sort of fits in with what you're saying here.

Regards,
Lightning