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Groggy
11th August 2006, 01:17
1939 FLUGSPORT article on “JETS”
Montanamotor + Lightning + Folks,

In 1939 The German aviation journal Flugsport issued a review of all designs dealing with “jets” by a German writer Gohlke, The article embodied many illustrations including certain English patents. As yet I have not tracked down a copy. Any chance of finding and reviewing the original ?

montanamotor
11th August 2006, 02:25
This might be something difficult to achieve, Groggy...

Well - I'd start looking for this mag at the german "Bundesarchiv" at Koblenz. This is the german equivalent to the US "Library of Congress": If it ain't there, it probably doesn't exist at all...

Next place to look for it would be bigger libraries, i.e, public libraries in bigger german cities. For example, I know that the public library at STUTTGART can do wonders in retrieving printed matter, especially with technical background.

There may be lots of specialized aircraft archives around in Germany, also. Problem is, that those spechialized archives are generally privately owned, and the owners of the materials sometimes require ridiculously high prices for copies of their "most prechious"...

I'll check opportunities and report back. But it may take a day or two to do so.

By the way: Did you notice the in-flight-pictures of the Caproni Campini No.1 in the "Regia Aeronautica pictures"-thread already...?

Cheers!

Montanamotor

Red Admiral
11th August 2006, 03:24
I'd try either the RAeS for help, or your local university. I'm at University of Bath currently doing MechEng, and the basement of our library is full of ancient copies of various magazines. If the article still exists somewhere, theres a good chance that there will be a copy in a uni somewhere. For the English patents, why not try RAeS directly for the numbers of the patents.

http://ep.espacenet.com/?locale=en_ep

European patent office

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB406713&F=0&QPN=GB406713

Campini's patent from 1934, including excellent drawings.

Groggy
11th August 2006, 21:34
quote:Originally posted by Red Admiral

I'd try either the RAeS for help, or your local university. I'm at University of Bath currently doing MechEng, and the basement of our library is full of ancient copies of various magazines. If the article still exists somewhere, theres a good chance that there will be a copy in a uni somewhere. For the English patents, why not try RAeS directly for the numbers of the patents.

http://ep.espacenet.com/?locale=en_ep

European patent office

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB406713&F=0&QPN=GB406713

Campini's patent from 1934, including excellent drawings.


Hi Montanamoter,

I think the Campini photo is super! I understand the difficulties, I remember my mother kept a RAF magazine that reported Lockheed’s claim to just putting the finishing touches to a 1000mph passenger jet design in 1945! But because it was a Government publication a copy was not deposited with the British Library. It was forty years before I discovered that Miles Aircraft had already put forward such a design to the Ministry of Supply and another ten years before I saw details of Whittle’s supersonic turbofan with afterburner that was to have powered it. The axial turbofan was already under construction during 44/45 when Whittle was sacked.

Hi Red Admiral,

I tried the RAeS but the Librarian is on leave, summer holidays I guess. The patent drawing is very interesting. Does it remind one of a later project? Campini must have been some thinker. I will try the British Library when I can afford to go to London next.